Primera Results - Week 4

Rune, I don’t think it matters much how many trolls are in this blog or who is who in troll-land.
The point is that we talk argy football until the trolls show up.
Then the topic becomes the trolls or whatever else the trolls want us to talk about.
And we shouldn’t allow that.
Take a look at this thread. I didn’t even take part in it, but Ken couldn’t help it but calling me “an ex-patriot who hates his countrymen”.
I personally couldn’t care less if Ken is John or John is the queen of travesties.
It is the flow of the blog that suffers every time these sick people come around to disturb our conversation.
This blog is getting more and more advertising, I’ve noticed, people who sell their products to us, and I don’t think they should allow for this to happen.
Once again, chaos is created under the flag of freedom of speech.
And this type of freedom of speech SUCKS.
Shame on the organizers who believe these type of things are good for their business.
Let’s get real.

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higuain scored

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Christian
One comment about the last pod-cast, which I really enjoyed listening to :

At the question “Why have argie teams started out so poorly in Copa Libertadores?”
I would mention that at this time The Clausura has more urgency and, on the other hand, Copa Libertadores is still in the group stage, which, I don’t know the details but at least 2 teams out of every group advance to the next round, which then is double match “do or die” till the end.
In other words, at this stage La Libertadores is a negotiable situation that all teams use to play with the score and rest their stars as much as possible. Keep in mind they’re playing 2 games per week and flying lots of miles.
The Clausura in contrast, is a short tournament where, now more then ever, many teams are possible contenders.
Btw, Banfield just destroyed Lanús (reigning champs) 0-5 for the Clausura.

Another reason, and please don’t take this as bragging, is that football in Argentina is now better than in most south-american countries and the main european football scouts live in Buenos Aires.
A small team, these days, can really dream of network coverage and big sponsors by winning a Clausura or an Apertura. Bs. As. has now a “passage to riches” when it comes to football. And not only for players…

What are your thoughts on this?

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Ya Ok …..I’m glad some of you got that off your chest and for Albo hopefully that good cry you just did will focus you back on football.

Moving right along Inter won today and I am not very happy about that. Milan or bust for as you all know so I am for anybody but Inter. It will never happen that I cheer for the city rivals…..NEVER I tell you. I don’t change my club team period regardless of the amount of Argentines on Inter, thats just the kind of integrity I have. Hopefully Milan can pick up Messi or Aguero for next year.

So let hope ROMA puts the boots to Napoli tomorrow to keep pace with inter.

Check in Sunday evening for my full report.

regards

and whoever emailed me the The Navarre report thank….yoU

Aguero showed some awesome things again tonight, but he missed a coupple of good chances aswell. But, man, his speed and ability is just fantastic. As usual Atletico lost after their great game last weekend….Diego Milito scored the winner with his penalty…2-1 Zaragoza.

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Our Number 9 problem,

Right now we got three solid number 9.

1) German Denis- last season in Argentina scored 19 goals in 19 games. Pretty good but he needs a move to Europe if he wants to start for the Ntional team.

2) Lisandro Lopez- really unnotice player since he plays in Portugal but he has been tearing everything up. And really desverse a call up fo the next game.

3) Diego Milito - Really underrated player he is one of the leading scorers in La Liga. He is the captian of his team but he needs to find his feet for the national tea.

The Young Gun

1) Gonzalo Higuain- He is a natural forward but in Real Madrid he hasn’t been getting any playing time since Raul and RVN start in front of him. Right now RVN is injured and not been playing well. Higuain started the game yesterday and scored. This is the chance that Higuain needs if he wants to beat out everyone for the number 9 spot.

The Dark Horse

Fernando Cavenghi- If he does everything smart and continues to play the way he has been playing there is no reason why he can’t be the nett Batitsuta for the National team.

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GOLAZO,

The only real problem we have is tactical.

We don’t have a problem concerning the #9 spot because, unlike the SW position, we have lots of people there.

This is my personal classifiction:
1) Cavenaghi 2) Lisandro 3) Denis 4) Palacio 5) Saviola

Milito had a huge chance in 2007 and wasted it. I believe the players above need to be tested in priority (Lisandro Lopez before anybody else!).

I consider Aguero, Tevez, Messi & Lavezzi as second strikers.

I’ll give you news about Cavegol tonight, he’s facing Lyon, for almost a final of the French league.

EVERYONE,

Watch this video, you are gonna laugh hahahahahha
http://fr.youtube.com/watch?v=mu7i5CJq3mg

I watched the Boca-Independiente game tonight…1-1….Riquelme equalised after the break. Boca played the entire second half with ten men. Palacio wasted an incredible chance ten minutes before the end. Sad that they couldn’t get the victory.

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Boca should have won that game even with ten men imo. Riquelme scored a great goal and played good, really created the pace of that game.

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Difficult game for Cavenaghi. He defended and pressed a lot but was alone upfront during almost all the game. The beginning was terrible for him: only 9 balls touched in 20 mns. Bordeaux are really average. Cavenaghi scored on a penalty that should’ve not existed. His statistics are still there though, 1 gol per game. Bordeaux lost 4-2.

“Fútbol-Ballet” reads the title on Clarín/Olé.
Boca 1-1 Independiente at La Bombonera turned out to be a true “clásico”.
The game had both intensity and flair, all throughout.
Boca was without Ibarra and Palermo, which is quite a chunk less.
Independiente scored early in the first half (Cáceres own goal on a low cross by Montenegro to Denis).
Boca turned the pressure up but couldn’t find the net. Right before the break, Paletta got sent off for a nasty slide on Grisales.
Boca played the second half with 10, but they played with the passion that makes them a special team. And besides one of them was Riquelme.
Román played exquisite football, never gave up, and finally was awarded with a golazo (scored) that followed a quick touch and go with Boselli.
Entertaining match and with plenty of good football.
Denis was not in his best night but Montenegro showed his class.

MaxiLopez, about the video you posted, I remember when it happened, and I don’t get tired of watching it
It’s like “solemn” people look more stupid when they fall… don’t they?

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Christian, maybe you’re right, but it’s been said by Colombian, Paraguayan and Chilean players that playing in the argy league gives them more exposure to the european markets than playing in their own leagues.
Saludos

maxi lopez, you said that d milito had a huge chance in 07 and blew it. i tend to dissagree, he played mostly as a sub in the copa america and i only remember him starting one game. btw the game in witch he started he only played the first half. i know he strugled throughout the tournament but he just didn’t get enough of a chance. when crespo went down for sure i thought this was his chance but the stuborn as a donkey basile insisted on playing two small strikers. in my oppion milito should have got more playing time with the friendlies leading up to the copa. than to be just thrown out there in such an important competition. i think milito is fine player definately one of the best strikers in spain, if he could only transfer it to the nt.

To Rune,
thanks for being wise enough to
realize that I am certainly not John.
I do not however love Arsenal. I am
just impressed when a coach/ manager
takes a new or innovative approach to football
that seems to be effective. I think that there
are clear indications that Arsene Wenger is trying that.
I also believe that they have a very young midfielder
who is outstanding. It would be interesting to see
how they do in CL.

My approach is to see what is new out there and
believe in the possibility that the Argentinean
coach may apply some of that approach. I am just thirsty
for Argentina to win a world cup very soon since we have been waiting
for that since 1986 now.

Messi has hurt himself again. It is very unfortunate
that he is probably the most gifted player on the planet,
but he does not use his talent the way Zidane did, which allowed
him to last so many years. I would not be surprised that Messi
would be part of the team for WC2010 because of injury. Then, there is also
the fact that he taken growth hormone for years now, the consequence of
which we do not know.

Riquelme the blogger, are you still around?

Maxilopez, I still enjoy reading from you
because you always speak straight from the heart.
Best wishes to you all.
Ken

Atletico Madrid president slams Aguero treatment
tribalfootball.com - March 10, 2008

Atletico Madrid president Enrique Cerezo has slammed the lack of protection Sergio Aguero is receiving from referees after their defeat to Real Zaragoza.

Aguero, himself, has slammed ref Ramirez Dominguez for his performance on the night, and Cerezo also remarked: “One day they’re going to leave Aguero an invalid.

“I can’t believe what defenders who play against Atletico are allowed to get away with.

“Against Zaragoza it was very sad to see what was happening. On more than one occasion Aguero received tackles that deserved a yellow card.

“There’s no point talking about precise plays. The constant hard tackling on Aguero needs to be looked at.

“If a player is skillful and a specialist in making football attractive, we need to look after him so spectators can see this spectacle, that is why they pay to come to the stadium

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Amen . When is futbol going to protect its players more? You see a player like Aguero gets slammed from behind everytime he recieves the ball. Maybe futbol can learn form the NBA sometimes you have to adjust the rules as the players get bigger and stronger to prevent injuies and also to allow the gifted ones to show off some of their skills. When the player receives the ball and is kicked in the back of the legs it should be a yellow. Also any jersey pulls should be a yellow. This would open up the game a lot. The NBA had this problem with the detroit pistons and the whole league becoming to defensive. They changed some rules on hand checks and the offenses once again had the advantage. What would be wrong with that in futbol? All that needs to happen is the ref being more tight in handing out yellows for these infractions. Also what i get tired of is the Ref giving yellows based on whether the player appears to be injured or not. A yellow card foul should be called whether the guy rolls around on the ground in pain or not.

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I agree - the most pernicious and cynical practice out there now is that systematic fouling, where they rotate fouls on people like Aguero so that no one player gets kicked out of the game. This is what Zaragoza did against Aguero, and what Brazil did against Riquelme in the Copa America final. It’s completely cynical, unethical, everyone knows it happens, and fifa doesn’t do a thing to stop it.

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i only have that to say concerning the defense line of argentina:
*we are witnessing the fall of Gaby Heinze and Gaby Milito and the rise of Ezequiel Garay and Gonzalo Rodriguez.

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Yes the changing of the guard. I hope that Basile is paying close attention. And of course Demichilis is still in the mix as well. Now we just need that strong left side defender with some speed.

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That’ll probably be Villagra.

Ken, Thanks for asking. I am still around and enjoying this blog and the players silently.

Regarding Messi’s injury, I think in a sense it good for him as long as its nothing serious and he will recover in a few weeks. The look on Messi face said that he exactly knew how important was it for him not to get injured. And I am sure after this injury, Messi will try everything on and off the field to make sure that he doesnt get rushed. I think this might be the beginning of a new Messi that is going to last for a decade. I wanna see him back.

Keep writing guys!!

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Really good to hear from you, Riquelme the blogger.
I do not know Messi can change his mindset; He always
like to run at 100 miles an hour. It would be good to hear from Alfio.
Cheers to you all.

P.S Todd, you are right about unfair treatment given to stars players
like Aguero. It is up to the players to make the appropriate adjustment
and be fully prepared for any eventually. Remember how Riquelme was completely shut out against Brazil in Copa America. Criatiano Ronaldo used to be very upset; Sir Alex hs worked on him. He is now tougher in his attitude.

Villareal has really surprised me; they even beat Barcelona away.

Tomorrow, Tuesday March 11th at 1 pm (Buenos Aires time) Coco Basile will give the list of 20 players who will fly to Cairo to face Egypt on March 26th.
Given the high amount of matches currently played by some albicelestes with their respective clubs and adding the few who are injured, Basile will probably end up
testing some new players. It is said in certain circles that Fernando “Torito” Cavenaghi and Lizandro “Liche” Lopez will get the call from the mister.

Possible list:

GKs :Roberto Abbondanzieri (Getafe) and Leonardo Franco (Atlético de Madrid).

Defenders: Gabriel Milito (Barcelona), Gabriel Heinze (Real Madrid), Martín Demichelis (Bayern Münich), Pablo Zabaleta (Espanyol de Barcelona), Nicolás Burdisso and Javier Zanetti (Inter Milano).

Midfielders: Maxi Rodríguez (Atlético de Madrid), Fernando Gago (Real Madrid), Javier Mascherano (Liverpool), Esteban Cambiasso (Inter), Luis González (Porto), Leonardo Ibagaza (Mallorca) and Ever Banega (Valencia).

Forwards: Sergio Agüero (Atlético de Madrid), Julio Cruz (Inter), Gonzalo Higuaín (Real Madrid), Lisandro López (Porto) and Fernando Cavenaghi (Girondis Bordeaux).

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albo chinga a tu perrisima madre

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