Basile Names Squad For November Qualifiers

If it really comes to choose 3 out of 4 from Tevez, Ronaldo, Berbatov and Rooney, the choice of Rooney should be easy. He is a good player, probably has all the qualities of the other 3 but not upto par.

He is a superstar because he is from England. People just go gaga over him. Someone passes a 50 yard ball to rooney in the flanks and the commentators almost has an orgasm looking at Rooney receiving the ball. I think any footballer in the streets of Brazil or Argentina can do that in their sleep.

I have seen:
1. Rooney making a mess of pass/through-ball that is sure for goal. The commentators said “Ronaldo was not where Rooney wanted him to be”. It amazes me, just say “the pass was off”.
2. Rooney passes a ball behind a running Tevez inside the penalty box, the commentator says “Tevez was a step ahead for Rooney’s ball”.
3. “Goalkeeper came in the way for Rooney’s goal” – Come on that’s what GKs get paid for, coming in the way.

all the above 3 and many more are true. But unfortunately Tevez is the one who will be substituted every now and then. Tevez is very good at free kicks, he is not going to get any chance with Ronaldo and Hargreaves there. The crowd loves him, but largely because of his hard work – as someone said “running like a headless chicken”.

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tevez south american player of year, rooney won nothing like that

tevez all time scorer (i think) Olympics rooney has achieved what exactly

saviloa all time scorer youth world cup

i agree with the true number 9 thing people keep bringing up we need a true 9 along side the world class talent of second strikers/playmakers like mesi tevez etc
cavenaghi please people he is not the answer he is not international class he just poaches goals in weak leagues and thats his lot

milito/Higuain/ Zarate/crespo/lavetti are the 9s

id personally go for milito

de mario- milito-messi

lucho-mascorano-gago

and take your pick at the back 4 but id still rather a back 3

de mario-milito-messi

Monzón mascorono gago zabaleta

Heinze-Demichelis-Coloccini messi and demario dropping back into midfield de mario outside/inside left messi free role milito holding out and out centre forward

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Goalie Carrizo (Lazio)
Luciano Monzón (Betis)
Martín Demichelis (Bayern Munich)
Daniel Díaz (Getafe)
Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City)

Esteban Cambiasso (Inter)
Javier Mascherano (Liverpool)
Riqueleme (Boca)
Angel Di María (Benfica)

Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
Sergio Agüero (Atlético Madrid)

Subs are Tevez , Milito , and Maxi You can always fall into a 3 2 3 2 by subbiin gin one of them for Monzon or Zabaleta .

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Also just because I like Tevez more than Rooney does not mean Rooney sucks. I actually think that for Man u they should just rotate the four of them so they will start 75 percent of the games and then the one that does not start will sub in at about 65 minutes for whoever looks the most tired. It is actually a great situation and none of them should be to mad about it . You will play in almost every game and start 75 percent of the time. What is so bad about that ?

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Rooney will always start ahead of tevez because of business tevez is better but the English public won’t allow an Argentine start ahead of Englands’ great hope escpially at Man Utd but both are really good/

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It’s just a disgrace…I can not believe that Coco picked guys like Coloccini, Burdisso and Heinze over Gonzalo Rodriguez!!!!!!!!!Incredible!

I THINK ROONEY SUCKS AND MY PREDICTION AT THE POINT HE BECAME PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE HAS COME TRUE… HE IS AGING TO EARLY AND IS JUST BIG AND STRONG FOR HIS AGE…. THATS NOT PICKING ON THE GUY ITS TELLING IT HOW IT IS… IF ROONEY WAS BLACK AND I STATED HE WAS A BLACK MAN IS THAT GETTING AT HIM NO CLEARLY NOT….

He is overrated and media over rated thats 100% fact and in 2 years wen his a nobody remember my posts….

milito aruro
messi
mon mas gago zaba
hieze demish colli

3-5-2 argentina allways look tickityboo in that formation

messi is a world above ortaga milito aguro could be a partnership and both beat out cloudio lopez the fastest player ever that cannot actually play (lol)but ran like a road runner

mas and gago in the middle is looking great gago needs to grow as a player tho

are attacking options wide aswell as defence with a back 3 i can see are young full backs playing there or in a super attack 3-5-2 that newcastle winger (forgot his name) and maxi on other flank

has anyone noticed that 3-4-3 and 4-3-3 with 3 forwards is hailed as a goal getting formation yet argentina went out the world cup with out scoring in open play and Barcelona can swomp a penalty box with attacking players and just not score

forward 3s are a funny old thing at times but with messi de mario etc surly it would work

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Goalie Carrizo (Lazio)
Luciano Monzón (Betis)
Martín Demichelis (Bayern Munich)
Daniel Díaz (Getafe)
Pablo Zabaleta (Manchester City)

Esteban Cambiasso (Inter)
Javier Mascherano (Liverpool)
Riqueleme (Boca)
Angel Di María (Benfica)

Lionel Messi (Barcelona)
Sergio Agüero (Atlético Madrid)

as in a 4-4-2 jesus i hope not i might aswell support england 4-4-2 just makes me sick into my mouth a little its like being forced to have sex with a real fat lady that doesnt bathe and has aids you dont do it 4-4-2 is for kids football and real madrid the flat 4 is to me football for babys

world football needs a team with a back 3 showing how the game should be played its the flat 4-4 that has got england into soooo much trouble english players are one definitional because of the 4-4-2 obsession

peckerman did so well apart from his fear of goals that led to stupid lets go defensive against germany bullshit cost us again 4-4-2 and wen rioman went off the holes in the midfield allowed the germanys to get that goal back

i hate that formation

what would you guys line ups look like with the above 11 players

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1)
—————-carizzo—————–
zabaleta—gonzalo—-demichelis—monzon
——–mascherano——gago————-
—————-riquelme—————–
——-messi—————di maria/aguero/tevez
————-aguero/higuain/zarate
—————————————————————————-
2)
—————–carizzo—————————-
—–garay—–demichelis——–gonzalo———
—————mascherano————————
zabaletta/maxi—-gago——–di maria/monzon—-
—————–riquelme———————–
———–messi———–aguero/higuain/zarate–
————————————————————————
3)
——————-carizzo————————-
zabaleta——gonzalo——demichelis—–monzon—
———–mascherano——gago——————–
——-messi—————–riquelme————–
————aguero——-higuain/zarate/tevez——
4)
—————–carizzo————————
——-garay——demichelis—–gonzalo——–
—————–gago—————————-
——mascherano————-banega————-
—————–riquelme———————–
—-messi———————–di maria/tevez
—————aguero/higuain/zarate
————————————————————————–
all i know is we are using the wrong players to play whatever formation.
we play with to many defensive minded players who are slow and dont match each other well.
its like the team is seperated in 2 parts.
part 1:7 players and goalkeeper they job is to defend.
part 2:the 3 other is they job only to attack.
no moving without the ball,we dont function like a unit.
roman needs fast players around him who are always moving,he needs help from the 2 fullbacks(wich he is not getting from zanetti lost a step and heinze a centreback a clumsy one,then basile puts in the team cambiasso and batalgia who are also slow with already a slow riquelme on the team.
the 3 upfront are isolated!
messi has to drop back to help riquelme and aguero is left alone upfront wich makes it easy for the defenders.
so the plan is this i liked how they play against brazil.
they satisfied me 75%.
we showed class that day,we played like a unit,we hustled,we defended,we attacked together,and we played with concentration almost the whole game.
we must put players on the pitch who can attack and defend and are fast,and are good with the ball.
we need to work on:playing like a unit,defend-attack,faster players with ball skills,shoot(we need to shoot more),finish our chances,concentration,chose the right players.
i think we need to play with 4 attacking players not 3,espacially if we start with 2 small strikers,they should be asked to defend and run they ass off and after 60 or 70 minutes change them with others,we are stocked there with talent so this could be possible.

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No Cavenaghi
No Zarate
No Gonzalo
No Lucho
No Lisandro
No Higuain

It’s a real pity for all those names which I’ve mentioned above. I still believe that if they were born in Chile and Colombia, all of them would have walk into the National Team.

The good news here is that Coco has decided to call up Monzon. I’m hoping to see something new from our left back. Heinze is too defensive for me. Monzon may not be in the mould of Sorin but I’m sure he has more to offer compare to Heinze.

Milito is another surprise inclusion. I hope Basile will use him more rather keeping him on the bench, just like what he did in the Copa America. I always felt Milito can emulate Crespo. At least he is in good form.

Judging from what I’ve seen so far, I do believe Carizzo will be a great goalkeeper. He is doing a fantastic job for Lazio.

Among the local players that I expect to be included will be Riquelme. Other possible candidate are Palacio and Battaglia. Someone mentioned to me about this guy called Noir. I’ve never seen him playing so far but maybe you guys can tell me more about him (pardon me but in Malaysia there is no television coverage on the Argentine league).

My main worries is in defense, to be precise Demichelis. He is having a bad form for Bayern in recent matches.

These are some of the points that I would like to raise. Hope to hear some from you on my blog as well.

http://mundoalbiceleste.blogspot.com/2008/09/cocos-provisional-squad-for-november.html

Posted from  Malaysia

No Gonzalo or Higuian? I’m expecting more of the same..

Posted from  Canada

Nolan, I was refering to Gonzalo Rodriguez

Posted from  Malaysia

Prepare yourselves to read crying/criticizing words from Maxi.

I read that players like Higuain deserve to be in the NT. Well, I believe that players like Cavenaghi, Lopez & Denis are performing well in their clubs for a long time and SHOULD have a chance. These 3 guys should’ve been the priority for 1 year now.

What Basile is doing with the NT attacking line is ridiculous and a shame. His 2 first choices for the striking role are Tevez & Aguero who are 2 second forwards. Then, at each time, he selects 1 or 2 subs in his personal list (that almost contained Martin Palermo last day!):
- Cavenaghi
- Lopez
- Denis
- Milito
- Cruz
- Crespo

Each month it changes, Zarate is maybe the next one. It’s Basile and I’m getting used to it. Prepare yourselves to see us waste many opportunities in 2010 because we won’t be playing with a pure #9. We might pay it a lot on our WC bill…

By the way, Pato is only injured, he is still around!
I like to see Monzon joining the seniors. I HATE to see Diaz instead of Gonzalo/Garay. It’s good to see Maxi back, he’s very important, even if his way of playing is quite static with Basile (?!). I wonder if Basile is demanding him to defend in priority or not. If it is the case, it’s pathetic.

DEBASISH,
Players like Lucho and the ones you mentioned look like kitties whereas they are tigers in their clubs. It’s true. I’m sure it’s because of Basile. He doesn’t believe in them (unlike Pekerman who would even believe in Scaloni!). I’m not in the locker-room, but his behaviour regarding Diego Milito at la Copa, his seleccions and his communication are enough for me. Basile doesn’t believe in Cavenaghi because he plays in France. He doesn’t believe in Lucho or Aimar because he sees them only as Roman’s subs. He didn’t believe in Diego Milito in the past because medias were pushing for Tevez. It goes on and on…

JOHNFROMMUNDO,
It’s not necessary to post your blog link all the time. I’m sure the people who are interested in have bookmarked your site for a long time now.

KEN,
You have become ridiculous because of some arguments you had 10 years ago on our blog. By the way, concerning one of the thousand off topics you talked about, I could’t resist to say to you that Zidane has hit & kicked many players in his career. People like you only notice the negative, never the positive. I’ve watched Zidane 180 minutes in my life at the stadium. I don’t think it’s possible to enjoy futbol more than with him.

ALFIO, AURELIUS
I don’t like Basile neither.

ALFIO,
Yes, the 4-3-1-2 with Maxi & Angel on the flanks will be the best for this system. 4-3-1-2 can be very nice to watch if used correctly.

SKYWALKER,
Basile has no tactical skills and doesn’t know how to make his players defend. He’s afraid and often uses 4-3-1-2 with 4 central defenders (he said he liked a lot playing like this) and 3 defensive mids. Sometimes, it works like against France. Most of the time, it ends like against Colombia or Peru.
Concerning Milito, he’s “on fire” for 3 years. Why wasn’t he called since july 2007??? Do you think he understood the situation when Cruz or Palermo were chosen ahead of him for 18 months?

AIMAR10,
I’m sick of Basile too. That’s why I come less here. What is the point to come here and talk about fabulous Zarate or Cavenaghi/Denis gols if they will never be tested in the NT?

DEBASISH,
Heinze is called because he’s the only central defender that can play on the left of a 3-men-defence. In “theory”, when the 3-5-2 switches to 4-3-1-2, he’s the one who defends on the left of the back 4. Well, infact it doesn’t happen a lot, because we defend more 3-5-2 than 4-3-1-2… Concerning Messi, I perfectly understand you. People want gols. They believe that Messi is good if he scores, they don’t care if he lose 90% of the possession. Also, Messi is tired. So sometimes he has off games, it’s logic. It will happen to Aguero too. They will have a terrible end of season.

Olé Olé Olé, Olé Olé Olé Ola. Olé Olé Olé, jogando bien O JOGANDO MAL…soooooy Argentinos…

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ALFIO,
I agree with your last post too.
The formations you wrote are pure logic (don’t forget we need a pure #9 starting). Players at their correct positions, attacking & defending like a unit. At WC 2006, everyone defended (10 players, Crespo & Saviola did a terrific job) and attacked around Riquelme (Sorin, Maxi superb).

Posted from  France

BTW, guys Coloccini is really back to his own form. His high days are over and with a headless newcastle, he is making errors left and right.

He is playing so bad in my opinion, that even during the 2 minutes highlights show in Fox soccer channel, you can see Coloccini making 3 mistakes. Santa Cruz headed home the second goal over Coloccini as if he did not exist. I have said this many a times before, Coloccini was going through a high last season and I supported his inclusion. I believe we should take in-form players. This season Coloccini is bad and I fear he can cost us.

Alfio, I love your formations. Mouth watering indeed! you want to be the coach of Argentina? I will vote for you .

Posted from  United States

John – I know that, I was saying both of those players deserve callups. Gonzalo is probably the best Argentine defender right now.

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Debasish: the Coloccini thing is nothing new: in fact things are going exactly as I predicted them (not that I’m happy about that).
Time and time again players from Argentina and spain have gone to England with big reputations and then been spat back out and then deemed failures for the rest of their careers regardless of what they achieved before or after (Veron a classic example). Coloccini to Newcastle was a classic bad team buying one defender (when you need more than that) pinning everythin on him and then sulking when things go astray. England is a completely different culture to an Argentine: not just everyday life but in football too. There is less emphasis on keeping the ball, short passing everything is built around the cross. We’ve all wached Coloccini hold his own in the Argentina team these past 5/6 years, we saw what he did at Deportivo when a coach finally played him consistently in one position and he grew in to the team. Now he’s taken the money at the age of 26 (his prime years) and is seemingly falling in to the trap that Veron, Forlan, Luque etc all fell in. You’re right: he could’a been a contender for a starting place in the Argentina 11, but at this time? at that club? No. I hope the money is worth it for him.

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Boy, that reads real bitter, doesn’t it?

Posted from  United States

Vamos Higuain!!!

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thats my argument all along the forward 2 doesn’t work with messi because he wonders and drifts and is a free playmaker witch leaves Agüero on his own

messi needs to drop back i totally agree this is my point with 3-5-2

messi vs ortaga in the hole messi is another level he is perfect for the so-called playmaker position

this allows aguero to play along side a true 9 like milito

ag mil
mes

like so, now do we build a 3-5-2 with this or a 4-3-1-2 4-4-2 looks good going forward if it was de mario on the left messi on the right feeding aguero and milito but again its 4-4-2 its generic its predictable and it leaves the dreaded hole in your defense…

di maria milito messi as a front 3 is more impressive than lopez – ortaga i wont mention batistuta as his the greatest true centre forward of all time (fact) and calling milito better would result in god striking me down with lightning for being stupid lol….

brasil won 2002 was it (well had it handed on a plate played turky twice and met weakest german side in history in final god what a joke wc that was) with a 4-3-1-2 it was a flouting forward 3 revaldo in the hole

surly its messis turn in the roman hole playmaker he can attack both flanks and the goal mouth from here and bring in other players milito can hold the ball and poach goals aguero can play as second striker link man

super attack 3-5-2

aguero milito
messi

-mascorano gago maxi
henze demichelis Coloccini – stands for dont know his name newcastle winger guy who busted shoulder against peru

2 strong wingers newcastle guy and maxi bombing forward and working hard wide, mascorano holding midfield strong back 3 and gago playing box to box as a midfield general

messi free role aguero second striker link man (saviloa style) and milito doing a batistuta job up front

censership is for gays so is ip blocking ITS MY WEB SITE ILL CRY IF I WANT TO PATHETIC

Tevez isn’t starting again for Man Utd’s CL league game today. Rooney, Berbatov and Ronaldo starting.

This is getting ridiculous.

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Higuain lacks speed and power in his shots on goals…arrrgh….!!!?*&^

Posted from  United States

New thread up for CL games. Please move the discussion there. Gracias!

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I agree with post that says the Basile way is seven defenders and then three guys responsible for all the attacking. We need midfielders that can both defend and attack. What is sad is that we have them. I still think that as Roman gets older he is best used as a sub at about 60 minutes. he then can come in when the other team is tired and he wont seem so slow.

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Coloccini is playing in a team that is completely lost.

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