Argentina v. Ecuador: LIVE

Have any of you guys read that article on Ole, with regards to Riquelme and Messi, it states that they don’t like each other and that Messi nearly left the team 3 days ago after words with Riquelme, and that there was some bad feeling between them in the Ecuador game which Veron went and sorted out.
We really can do without all of this, we’re about to face Brazil in a massive match we need to be focussed not squabbling over silly remarks.
Ole says that Riquelme said that Messi was like Maradona and that sparked things off, when Riquelme was asked regarding this he didn’t deny it, instead he said people hate me and they come out with these stories.
Any truth in this? Sounds a bit iffy to me.

Things like this must be treated as family matters. Someone irresponsible must have leaked things out. Rivalries & competitions are good thing, must be under controlled and channeled positively.

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Marcela is basically saying that it would be better if Arg lost to Brazil if it meant Basile going. Yikes!

All this negativity is giving me a headache.

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I think the incident happened during the game and now it makes more sense because with a pissed off Riquelme of course hes going to play like shit. But there pros there going to get over this.

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I like the whole “play like shit” analysis. Much knowledge learned from an unpaid internship.

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The Riquelme/Messi issue is ridiculous. Journalists want to see Basile being sacked and try everything to put trouble in the team. They should ask him questions about his tactical defending vision instead of creating hypothetic problems. The Riquelme/Crespo “issue” is funny. Journalists always create problems to sell paper. They have done the same in France where journalists said that Zidane never did assists to Henry because he didn’t like him.

Yes ASIL. Pekerman had to deal with group of players arguing eachother in 2006 and prefered a radical decision. What we saw fom the outside is that Veron & Zanetti were against captain Sorin. As a good manager, Pekerman took some decisions and sacrified Zanetti. What a waste. A good coach/manager must do all he can to keep a good spirit in a group, within some stupid people. It’s true that Basile has taken some risks by calling back Veron for example, who has always divided people in his teams. Basile is paid for solving these kinds of problems too.

GOLAZO,
Riquelme is unfit, tired and plays because Basile demands him to. He is Basile’s preferred player.

————————-Carrizo————————–
-Zanetti———Rodriguez———-Coloccini——–Heinze

——————Mascherano—–Gago——————
Messi————————————————-Maxi

—————–Agüero——–Lopez———————

I like this line up for tonights game. If Roman is not fit then play defense the first half and bring him in the second.

Maxi I resepct your opinions as I do everyones but I have a right to state it when I think it is going over the top. I have been saying for 8 months that we need to get younger and faster and that basile is not calling the same players that i would call if i were coach. I have stated that with other line ups with more speed and two way players teams could not mark out Messi and Aguero so easliy. With guys like di maria Lucho and Lavenzzi sitting at home it is a shame because these are players that the other teams could not leave unmarked, With all due respect to mascerano and gago and veron and zanetti these are not players that other teams are going to fear with over lapping runs or oitside shots.

The line up I have put for todays game is very defensive and not ideal but it does have speed and that is one thing that we need.

Let me also add that I read every post here and that I am not a Basile supporter but I also do not beleive that he is an absolute idiot. The ironic thing is that before the last world cup i was saying the same things about Perkermen when most were detracting him.

I predict 2 to 1 for argentina. Also if Roman cant play with Messi then it is time for him to go. part of the problem is that basile is not fielding enough runners to compliment Riquleme and Messi so when they get the ball there is no where to go.

Vamos Argentina .

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Maxilopez,

Riquelme would wanted to play even if Basile didn’t want him to play and image the Argentine media if Riquelme would of been on the bench.

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Alexa - I live how you tackle those Euro supporting South American bashers head first. Back to topic - Basile needs to play with a #9 flanked my Messi and Aguero, but mostly Messi in a free role.

Secondly - Maxi needs to be played more defensively this game. He has the pace to cope with counter attacks. I wish we switch back to a 4-4-2 like when we played France.

Aargh - I’m tired of thinking of tactical schemes, tired of the negativity. Is the game over yet?

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ha ha — pablitoaimar! I’m trying to argue more — but the Marcela comments are off for some reason. God they make me mad!

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when it will start the games from now???

In about 7 and a quarter hours, Aron.

LETS HEAR SOME PREDICTIONS. LETS HAVE SOME FUN!!! TELL WHATS THE SCORE AND WHO SCORES ETC. I WILL GO FIRST…

ARGENTINA - 2
BRAZIL - 1

Goals - CRUZ, MESSI

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News about Lucho

http://www.goal.com/en-india/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=741830

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Predictions: If Arg line up in a 3-5-2, I’m turning the TV off, otherwise I watch with my eyes closed. Hows that?

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Palacio is poised to sign for Lazio. Nice move. I hope it won’t be a reason to not invest in Pablito Aimar! America has made a new approach for him Pablo. I’m positive Aimar will stay in Europe. He’s ambitious.

DEBASISH,
Lucho knows how important it is for Basile to play in a big club. It’s the right time for a move. Many great clubs want him including Barca or Real.
A prediction? I’m reall bad in pronostics. I would say a tie: 1-1 (Messi on an individual action). The players have played very very much this year. They are tired. Maxi, Riquelme, Messi, DeMichelis, Cambiasso, Gago, Mascherano, Heinze, played so much this year. It will an impossible mission to play nice futbol. I must admit I am really frightened about the fact that we always only defend with 6 or 7 players. That’s the biggest problem. But our boys are going to be motivated like never before! We’ll see…

Cruz may score it’s true. He has the genetic code to score gols, even at 34.

Debasich,

Argentina 2 Brazil 1

Maxilopez,

Let me start by sharing a story with you.
There was once a person
at a bus stop at night. He
accidentally dropped his coins.He
kept looking only at the locations
where light was shining even though he
lost the coins at the location
where light was not shinning. As a consequence
he never located his dropped coins.

This summarizes the viewpoint
of a lot of bloggers here. Some
like Todd Utah who believes if
Basile adjusts his formation
things for Argentina will
improve. Others like Aurelius,
an astute observer mind you, now
believe that Basile should go. Yet
others like Day1star while acknowledging
the facts you have reiterated, simply
wants to believe that there will
be a better to-morrow(by ignoring the consequences of
deals made by AFA two years ago).

What I find even more fascinating is that
Marcela also completely missed the point
in her latest article. She also chooses to go
for the easy way out- put all the blame on Basile.

The mistakes that most of us make
is that we believe in what we see. When we look
we see the earth is flat. But we know the earth is
round, but it is not flat. If we want to know the truth, it
is seen with the heart, not with the eyes.

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day1star:thanks for your info,i’m excited to watch it.

You always have to hope that there is a better tomorrow or it defeats the purpose of living. Everything changes, nothing remains constant in life. I don’t walk around with my eyes closed hoping that my heart will guide me, that would be a stupid thing to do.
And most of the time your heart tells you only what you want to hear, it’s your brain and the intelligence you feed into it that tells you whether something actually makes sense or not. Follow not your heart it will always lead you astray.
Tell me Ken, what are you doing about the AFA and the deal they made two years ago? And what exactly is it that you expect us to do about it?

There are five witnesses to the truth, your sight, your hearing, your sense of smell, your sense of touch and your tongue.

Ken, forgive me if I don’t understand, seriously, but are you suggesting that he reason Burdisso, Heinze, Veron etc were picked is because of the Renova deal? Those were matters for the coach weren’t they? and he got them wrong. Fair enough, maybe in the future he will get them right. I know I am now going to be painted as ‘negative’ and a ‘Veron-hater’ et al but that is not true because I believe in the beauty of Argentine soccer and was a defender of Veron five or so years back when everyone else was hating on him. His time has passed. As MaxiLopez said quite well, a team must be a generation of players not a mishmash of different generations: that creates a clash of styles and personalities, in my opinion. I am hopeful that they are going to use the Olympics to blood players like Biglia, Garay, Escudero, Maidana, Ustari etc and then see them integrated in to the squad afterwards. That would be the bright future. I understand the restrictions and pressures on Basile but that doesn’t mean he should go without blame for what happened Vs Ecuador. You may say it’s a bad situation to begin with (and I agree with you) but what many are saying is it shouldn’t have been THAT bad.
Anyway, on to the Brazil game. I actually quite like the proposed formation but am a bit dubious to some of the personnell (why after Dunga said after the Copa that they saw Heinze as a weakness and someone to exploit is he playing in the same position again?) and have good vibes (whatever they’re worth) about the game. I wouldn’t like to predict a score but I’m curiously optimistic.

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Here’s an article a bit more clearer on the Riquelme/Messi supposed bust-up.
http://www.sportsya.com/english/soccer/world_cup_south_american_qualifiers_2010/home/news.php/South_American_Qualifiers_Argentina_face_rumours_before_game_against_Brazil.html?id=180443&id_estruc=283

Bolivia’s leading Paraguay 1-0.